Can a redesign save Apple’s software?

It’s a slowish news week ahead of some very busy news weeks, so of course Nilay and David start the show with a long discussion about party speakers. Eventually, they get into the news, beginning with some of the huge Apple redesigns planned for WWDC in June. For the first time in a long time, the stakes for Apple’s software teams feel really high. After that, the hosts talk about Nilay’s recent interview with Google CEO Sundar Pichai, and what the AI-ification of everything means for the future of the web. Finally, in the lightning round, it’s time for another Brendan Carr is a Dummy, plus some talk about the Nintendo Switch 2, a bit of confusing tariff news, and more.

Further reading:

Graduation and prom season in full force, Alan sends a graduation procession with a party speaker on… her head?
So so many softball and baseball games, Luis tips us to the Yankees
Incredible at a dentist office from Oktawian

Apple is reportedly going to rename all of its operating systems 

Apple is ready to replace Game Center with a more Xbox-like gaming app 
Get ready for Apple’s glassy operating systems overhaul.
Nick Clegg says asking artists for use permission would ‘kill’ the AI industry
The New York Times’ first generative AI deal is with Amazon
The Browser Company explains why it stopped developing Arc
The plan for nationwide fiber internet might be upended for Starlink
FCC Commissioner Labels Trump Push to Chill Speech an ‘Administration-Wide Effort’
Carr’s attack on Ergen looks gross
Shut Down the Federal Communications Commission
With the Switch, technology finally caught up to Nintendo 
Nintendo’s bold new era is full of safe bets 
The Nintendo Switch was an indie game haven, until it was overrun with slop 
The Nintendo Switch 2 sure seems to work just fine with a USB mouse 
There’s a Switch 2 unboxing video already.

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